Extra Intelligent Design


Anyway, just as a heads’ up, I’ve got a couple of midterm projects due next week, so no comic on Monday. I’ll try and get a sketch or doodle or something up, but in the meantime I’m posting lots of cool stuff on my sketchblog just in case you need things to keep yer eyeballs busy.

  • Jonathan Wint

    One of my saddest arguments With creationists and evolutionists is both groups are full of crap.Both sides Claim they read the Bible as Evolutionists say its wrong and Eden never Happened And Creationists say its Littoral Truth. Nether side ever Read the bible… How Do I know? Well I’m a Pagan and have to kind defend myself so I need to read the thing. Here the Joke The BIBLE CLEARLY STATED Eden was a Parable , Ie the Bible says Creationism is a Moral story… It never happened.
    States in about 5 other places as Biblical Patriarchs had to Explain there was no Literal tree of Immortality . Its a Parable like three billy goats gruff. The Original story Adams like 300 feet tall.Its all symbolic. So the Bible says basically Eden mostly made up… There a Yiddish word for we do not know what happened but this is a made up filler Enjoy…

    So the Evolutionists are wrong and so are Creationists and nether side READ The Bloody thing!
    And Ironically The Bible IS Right! BECAUSE THE EARLIEST BIBLES SAY EDEN NEVER HAPPENED!!! So Darwin and the Bible wear in complete agreement..

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    • astrocom

      To be fair, the onus isn’t really on evolutionists to be familiar with the Bible, now is it? That said, welcome to the “more familiar with Christianity than Christians” club. We meet randomly online whenever frustrated rants are logically consistent and topically related to our title.

    • someboddy

      Would you kindly point us to the exact place in the Bible that says that the story of the creation of the world is a parable?

      I’ve read the Bible and found two contradicting creation stories, but not a single word claiming that one of them – let alone both of them – is a parable.

      • Jonathan Wint

        Its been years since I had that discussion with a Friend who teaches Latin and Hebrew at monastery.(he explained it to me) So I can not give exact quotes (I have trouble remembering my social security Number.) But I believe it was the Prophet Elias, He was Explaining that Eden was not literally a real when his followers wanted to run off searching the super fruit. :) But any Franciscan Priest can explain it or find the exact line of Elias Quote. It not just one Quote it mentioned a few times in a couple of places. But not in the context of this is fake but in the context of this was a Moral Fable so some was made up because it never meant to be history. Parables Become History because some King likes the story. Next time I see John I will ask the exact Passage. And pay with a 5 hour conversation with the only man that can out talk me. But any Priest can tell you it was Never meant to be a history Lesson but a Moral one.

      • Jonathan Wint

        remembered the Hebrew word

        midrash may attempt to explain why.
        its used in the original txt it basically means we made up the missing pieces (names dates plot) for the sake of story and maybe all of it, please enjoy the story.

        • HiEv

          Holy crap (pun intended), that is *SO* completely inaccurate.

          The Hebrew word “midrash” means “study” or “exposition”, and it’s only used twice in the entire Bible, and both times it’s in 2 Chronicles, *NOT* in Genesis. While the King James version translated it as “in the story”, the more precise modern translations translate the word in both instances as “in the treatise” to clarify that it isn’t merely fiction. See here:

          That said, I believe you’ve mixed some things up in your memory. The Midrash is actually a separate group of Hebrew texts with stories that attempt to explain some of the inconsistencies and gaps in the Bible. The Midrash Abkir is, for example, where the story of Lillith in the Garden of Eden comes from. See:

          In other words, you’re just as “full of crap” as the people you’re complaining about because you’ve totally misremembered the details you’re discussing and clearly haven’t “read the Bible” yourself. It is the height of hypocrisy to dismiss other people for doing something that you are also completely guilty of doing yourself.

          – a person who accepts evolution is real and who has also actually read and researched Genesis in minute detail

    • Randy_B

      I don’t see it as a battle of Bible interpretations.
      I see it as Team Evidence vs. Team Authoritarian Dreamworld.

      • Jonathan Wint

        I agree but both sides still resort to using the Bible, Evolution supporters saying how Stupid it is, (there words) And Believers that Never bothered to read it in detail or question what the were told about it. My Point is Evolution supporters should be pointing out (if the read it in-detail like they say)the story was not history but intended as a Parable. And Christians Should read there own Book.

        • Shannon Lane

          Evolution stands without any Biblical “evidence”. Whether or not evolution supporters bash the bible or not, the theory neither requires that bashing nor is it based upon it.
          Non sequitur, I think? It’s immaterial to the discussion of the veracity of a scientific theory.

        • http://evilifiction.blogspot.com/ Pat

          Given that evolution is obvious fact and recognized by most people, and given that most people have religious beliefs of some kind, I daresay that quite a lot of people who aren’t creationists are aware that the contradictory Bible stories of creation are not intended to be taken literally. This is, in fact, commonly pointed out to creationists.

          However, it has absolutely nothing to do with evidence for evolution, which is not Bible-based in the first place. People who talk about evolution without inexplicably mentioning Biblical creation stories at all may have misunderstood the Bible, of course, but there is no evidence of that; not mentioning irrelevant things is normal. There are all kinds of things that I know that I don’t mention at any given time.

          • Jonathan Wint

            Ahh an thats my point! I agree fully!
            But Bible keeps being dragged in..

            And it should not be.

    • Eric Meissner

      Evolution supporters use actual evidence to support evolution regardless of whether an ancient book of myth disagrees or not. Atheists do occasionally poke fun at scripture when theists take it way to seriously, but the argument for evolution from both religious and secular proponents has nothing to do with the Bible.

      • Jonathan Wint

        Sadly it should work like that but it dose not. Atheists and Christians both fight over there faiths. Were they should be seeking truths.
        All belief structures are Faiths Even if you belieth if that your Napoleon and there fight become weather there a Divine or not instead of if man Evolved. And is that story right. When Like I said “The story was a moral Fable not history” So Why can not people just see and study the Wonder!

        Albert Einstein
        Your question is the most difficult in the world.
        It is not a question I can answer simply with yes or no. I am not an
        Atheist. I do not know if I can define myself as a Pantheist. The
        problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. May I not reply with
        a parable? The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp
        the universe.
        We are in the position of a little child, entering
        a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in
        many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written
        those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the
        languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in
        the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not
        comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the
        attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward

        • Shannon Lane

          The quote ends after ‘but only dimly suspects’, and does not continue with any reference to God.
          Anything after that is misattribution.

          • Jonathan Wint

            The quote” was several paragraphs longer. and I most certainly not fabricate it. Google Shannon, depends on who using the quote as to how long it gets.

        • HiEv

          “All belief structures are Faiths”

          This is untrue. The word “faith”, in this context, means “believing in things without good reason or in spite of reason to believe the contrary” or a system based on that kind of faith. The dictionary literally defines faith as “belief that is not based on proof”:

          Thus a scientific fact/theory like evolution, which is based on objective scientific evidence, is *NOT* a matter of faith. Evolution is both a fact (the frequency of traits in a species changes over generations) and a scientific theory (a testable framework which allows you to make well verified predictions regarding the past, present, and future of the change in species over many generations). That which is based on objective evidence, _by_ _definition_, is NOT faith.

          You say they should be seeking truths, well… the best tool we have for seeking objectively verifiable truths is the scientific method. Thus evolution is in no way a matter of “faith”, it’s a matter of science, fact, and truth about our reality.

          As for wonder, it’s a complete red herring when it comes to what’s actually true, but personally, I find even more wonder in knowing the amazing and intricate details which we’ve learned about how life evolved. Far more so than hearing “some magic guy did it because some book said so, the end”. I highly recommend Richard Dawkins’ book “Unweaving the Rainbow” if you’d like to hear a scientist talk about all the wonder to be found in the discoveries of science.

    • bub

      So, your religion is Catch-All-Term-For-Non-Christian?
      That’s… specific.

      • Jonathan Wint

        My religion IS Very specific and my business. And world would be better place if all faiths did so. But they do not and I find it annoying that Manny resort to violence over book they never studied.

        • jwwasnothere

          Jonathan-i do respect your choice of religion although i do not agree with it or any other of which i am currently aware. Your first point is absolutely true. Your religion is your business, however, the first rule of the internet is that when you post something you make it the business of someone else. I am sure you know that you cannot post generalizations (you heavily generalize both Christians and atheists, yet are angry when your religion in generalized) that attack other beliefs without expecting to have to trade words. In fact, you seem intent on putting your views out into the world in order to attract just that. That is an assumption and i could be wrong, but is how it seems.

          When you post the religious and political posts it doesn’t seem, to me anyway, to add to the conversation about the artist’s work at all. Maybe your posts represent her view maybe they don’t.

          Either way, that comic said everything that needed to be said in nine panels and was absolutely hilarious. I hope it is not your conscious intention to take away from the artist.

          • Jonathan Wint

            The generalizations are for the Creationists and Evolutionists because both choose to be Fanatics.

            I know Christians Priests that have no problem with evolution and Evolutionists that still believe in the possibility of more.
            And it was the point of the artist to start discussion. As it was yours to try to to be insulting sorry dude I been insulted by experts!

          • HiEv

            “The generalizations are for the Creationists and Evolutionists because both choose to be Fanatics.”

            LOL. This from the guy who made the broad and completely inaccurate overgeneralization above about creationists and evolutionists saying that “Nether side ever Read the bible”?

            I’m sorry, but if you believe making generalizations makes you a fanatic (a claim which itself might be an overgeneralization) then you yourself are a fanatic for making such an absurd generalization regarding those two groups which probably include well over 80% of all humans on Earth. Saying not one of them has ever read the Bible is completely ridiculous.

    • Ichneumon Jones

      Yeah, no…

      “Evolutionist” is not synonymous with “atheist” (in fact, if you run the numbers you’ll find that most “evolutionists” in the US are theists of some kind).

      So your notion of how “both sides are full of crap” is hugely ironic given that you clearly don’t have much knowledge of what the “sides” actually believe or say, nor why.

      Reading assignment: Check out “Finding Darwin’s God”, a book by Kenneth R. Miller. He’s both a Christian and an evolutionary biologist.

  • Chuck

    Was SB actually almost a little bit sort of slightly kind of mildly concerned about a strangers well being? Wow.

    • Eric Meissner

      Well last time she was found with a guy who had obviously had his head repeatedly smashed into a brick wall SHE was blamed for some reason!

  • Ga_Tor

    LOL is this a fourth wall thingy…

  • astrocom

    Hello, human person here. I really enjoy Superbitch, and I hope you continue it once you get into jobbing.

    • KCGarza

      Thank you, human person! I hope to continue it for a long time. :)

  • Sarah H

    …Nice to see how this comic brought out “random religion argument” again. Yay Interweb!

  • Jonathan Wint

    So how do I Balance my spirituality with Revolution..

    Anther Albert Einstein Quote

    “ Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind”

    • Shannon Lane


      Misattributed quote – Einstein never said that. He did, however, say:

      “I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
      Regardless, appeal to authority – a logical fallacy.

      • Jonathan Wint


        yep he did, people forget he had humor. He also sued a guy for calling him a Atheists. Was very clear he was not, he just did not believe in a Classic human god. He did not like people putting the definitions on what he him self undefinable but there. you need to read Spinoza witch very eastern ideology

        I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself
        in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself
        with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)

  • SomeRandom

    Can I call this villain Blind faith in my mind?